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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Mar 7, 2008 2:05:00 GMT -5
I'm terribly sorry everyone! I accidently mislead some of you with the information I stated earlier. The "Official" release date is March 18th! But the Borders Store where I live is having a special early release for the DVD on March 14th. Although I don't know why. It has been done before though where early releases for certain products can purchased before the rest of the country at the store I go to. Sorry again everybody! Lucky you. That's interesting though because if Borders is doing this without Disney's permission, they could be in serious trouble. The release date is very strict, and some companies have paid stiff penalties plus lost the right to carry future releases when they break that release date. Again though, that only applies if the store is doing this without Disney's permission.
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Post by LauraHonest on Mar 19, 2008 23:02:21 GMT -5
Ok so i got this movie yesterday. I liked it, but it wasn't as good as i was expecting. Maybe i will enjoy it more the next time i watch it. I was very stressed out and trying to relax while watching it, and that probably didn't improve the experience. I enjoyed all of the references to prior Disney movies, and Pip was adorable. I can't really think of anything i didn't like, but very little jumos out at me right now as being excellent either. I am going to hold off final judgment until I see it again, while in a better mood though.
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Post by fisher on Mar 20, 2008 0:55:44 GMT -5
I liked Enchanted for many reasons, but I'm gonna touch on what I didn't like about it, just because. If you're not in the mood to see what I didn't like, then don't read it. Personally, I don't really like the love story. It may not have been the writer's fault, it may have been the acting, but while watching Giselle and whats-his-bucket... I just honestly didn't see the sparks between them. He lacked compassion. And I understand that he was being stubborn to create minor love conflict, but I never saw them really -connecting-. It was suddenly Giselle just ... not being in love with the prince. I mean, I understand it was light-hearted cartoony comedy, but the relationship growing between 'em... I just didn't see it happening. So I thought the spontaneous love erruption was a bit unbelievable. It seemed to me like the only reason Giselle had to stay was daughter, who DID believe her. But he was nothing but pessimistic and mean to her, and was just trying to get her to change who she was. "No, that's not how things are done here." So, I didn't really like that part so much. I kinda think he was a jerk.
Secondly, the climax was a bit... anti-climactic. The dragon was just not all that scary. It may have been aimed at kids, but she was like "aHA! I'll sit up here and talk trash on you and get you all motivated to kill me! But 'til you do, I'm just gonna kick it up here, thanks." Ugly, yes, but scary? ... Not really. But other than that, I really liked it. The aniimation, what little there was. The music was awesome, it was cheesey and funny and cute.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Mar 20, 2008 10:42:31 GMT -5
Two thoughts. First off, I think Fisher makes some valid points about the ending. Simply put, the climax is an interesting mix of Maleficent's dragon with the Seven Dwarfs pushing the Old Hag off a cliff. As much as I love Enchanted, this was not the best mixture. They could and probably should have done more with the dragon, especially as Sleeping Beauty's finale remains one of the, if not the most, intense climaxes ever in a Disney film. Off the top of my head, only Lion King comes to mind with a similarly intense finale.
LauraHonest, let us know your final thoughts on a second viewing. I wonder if some of us(myself included) gave this film such glowing reviews that it could not meet lofty expectations. Although your point about being in the right mood is certainly valid.
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Post by Silver on Mar 20, 2008 15:04:55 GMT -5
I also agree with some of the comments mentioned above. As clever and crafty as the script is, it's still has many holes and underdevelopments. Whether or not this was deliberate, I can't say for sure. But I blame the screen-play writer and director for these flaws more so then the actors. (I was actually very impressed by the performances that were given) This is definetley not going to go down in history as a fine love-story. Mainly because it's rushed, unrealistic and corny. Although this may have been planned, mainly for the younger audience. But I think the idea for the lovers came from a fairy-tale point where the characters are meant to be kindered spirits and naturally grow on each other. And sometimes lack of substance in the romance dpartment can later be forgiven when it comes to fairy-tale love stories. (The Little Mermaid was similar) It's still a good family-film but not what I would call a masterpiece.
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Post by *DVF10* on Mar 21, 2008 15:58:11 GMT -5
I just saw bought this movie yesterday and I agree with Silver about not being a huge masterpiece. It was cute and all but I think they could have done a little bit better. Yes defetinly more dragon scenes cause in my opnion I think that was one of the best parts in the flim. But I think that all the actors did a awsome job portaying their characters well. I was blown away by Amy Admas performance as Giselle and Susan Sarandon as Queen Narissa. She defeintly has made it to my top favorite Disney Villain list. I also loved all the cameos in the flim. Im going to put a spoiler thing here just incase some of you have not seen it yet. I love how they made Queen Narissa mixture of Grimhilde,Yzma and Maleficent. I thought that was pretty cool. There was also a scene where Giselle and Robert go into a resturnat named The Bella Note Resturnat a song from Lady and The Tramp. Then in the beginning where Giselle is holding two diamonds up to her eyes; is the same way Dopey did in Snow White. Also in the beginning Giselle is brushing her hair she does it the same way Ariel does in The Little Mermaid. Also in the Ball scene when Giselle and Prince Edward are walking down the stairs, they are holding hands the same way Belle and the Beast are when they walk down the stairs. And the biggest one of all is the way Giselle takes a bite out of the poison apple and falls down with her hand sticking out. There was also another one Im not so sure if this was supposed to be a cameo towards Pirates of the Carrbiean but when Giselle and Morgan go shopping it shows a shop named Calypso. There were also a lot of Cinderella cameos as well By the way the new spoiler thing rocks! haha Oh I also have a question. Was Julie Andrews the narrartor in the beginning?
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Post by Shenzi on Mar 21, 2008 21:50:37 GMT -5
I just bought it today, YAY. And I agree with everyone that the dragon/Robert in Distress scene was very very short but still a great film, lots of humor.
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Post by LauraHonest on Mar 23, 2008 9:22:48 GMT -5
Claire-yes it was Julie andrews!
This movie was bordering on a spoof. Everything Claire mentioned and all of the other references to other Disney movies pushed it to the very borders of a spoof. That maybe why i didn't love it. Spoof movies annoy me. However, having the New York rats be most of the animals that responded to her call to clean was really amusing! The other thing that bothered me was Amy Adams lack of facial movement, it seemed like she always had the same expression on her face. I did really like Timothy Spall as Nathaniel and Patrick Dempsey as Robert.
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Post by *DVF10* on Mar 23, 2008 17:41:30 GMT -5
HA I knew it! It did sound like her. Yeah Timothy Spall was great as Nathanial hahah when I first saw him I was like Oh em gee its Peter Pettigrew Patrick Dempsy was awsome too! I also adored Pip! <3
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Post by Butterscotch on Mar 23, 2008 21:25:07 GMT -5
I just watched it again; I think enjoyed it a bit more this time around I think. Knowing the ending, I was able to relax a bit, and enjoy the devolping romance, instead of rooting for the guy who doesn't end up with Giselle.
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Post by Shenzi on Mar 23, 2008 21:31:39 GMT -5
HA I knew it! It did sound like her. Yeah Timothy Spall was great as Nathanial hahah when I first saw him I was like Oh em gee its Peter Pettigrew Patrick Dempsy was awsome too! I also adored Pip! <3 Oh I know when I first saw him I leaned over to my friend and went "OMG its Peter Pettigrew!"
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Post by Tx_Belle on Mar 23, 2008 22:46:38 GMT -5
I just watched this again tonight. It's a sweet movie and I love the cast. Kristin
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Post by Pride on Mar 23, 2008 23:17:05 GMT -5
I just watched it again; I think enjoyed it a bit more this time around I think. Knowing the ending, I was able to relax a bit, and enjoy the devolping romance, instead of rooting for the guy who doesn't end up with Giselle. Yes, me too. It was easier to watch the ending as I already knew what was going to happen; it settled better this time. I'm still not entirely happy, but I'm more understanding now.
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Post by lauren80 on Mar 27, 2008 23:20:35 GMT -5
I finally saw this last night. It's cute and all but I'm glad I didn't waste my money going to see it in the theater. I definitely won't be buying it.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Mar 28, 2008 0:54:09 GMT -5
I've thought of something quite interesting about Enchanted. Many have commented on the lack of character depth in the film, and while that is true, I think it was intentional. The film is trying to be a classic Disney fairy tale set in modern day. The characters were designed to be almost "stock" characters. As much as I love the film, the ending falters and weakens it a bit. After Robert awakened Giselle, there was no reason for Narissa to harm her. Giselle is no longer a threat to her power because she doesn't love Edward and isn't going to head back to Andalasia to be his bride. So, it was stupid for Narissa to take Robert. He actually helped her by falling in love with Giselle. In some ways, I think it was done simply to pay tribute to the most intense fairy tale ending and unleash a dragon on New York City ala King Kong. That said, the climax redeems itself for one reason. In this fractured fairy tale, full of demented songs featuring filthy rats and pigeons cleaning an apartment, it is only fitting that the real hero who saves the day is not the noble prince who awakened his love with love's first kiss, nor the charming heroine who brightens the lives of everyone around her, but instead the tiny woodland creature who saves the day. Think about it. In Cinderella, we view Prince Charming as having made her dreams come true, when it was actually the mice who made the dress, swiped the key, and got it to Cinderella just in time for the shoe to fit(likewise in Cinderella III, it is the mice who tell Charming that he's lost his mind. But everyone gives Charming all the credit for sending his duke around to figure out whose foot fit the slipper. Shouldn't he have known the girl of his dreams by something more than her shoe size?!?
While we rightly credit Prince Philip for saving Aurora in Sleeping Beauty, we forget that he had just about given up on finding the voice that so captivated him until, yep, you guessed it, the woodland creatures decided to steal his cape, boots, and hat in order to present themselves as Briar Rose's dream prince. If they hadn't stepped in, than Philip never would have found Aurora, who would have fallen asleep waiting for a kiss that would never come because she never would have met someone who loved her for who she was, not her royal birth. We don't even know if the woodland creatures got invited to the wedding.
In Enchanted, at long last, the heroic woodland creature is given proper credit as it is Pip, not Giselle, Robert, Edward, or Nancy, who kills Narissa and saves the day.
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