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Post by Butterscotch on Aug 6, 2007 19:36:54 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't adore this? ^_^; I love the animation, and the fairies and of course, Maleficant, but I don't like Phillip much. He's better than Prince Charming, but compared to modern heroes, he's pretty lame. ¬_¬ I do like that Aurora acts more like a teenager than most Disney herioines. Her little breakdown after she finds out that she is a Princess is very much like a teenager. Aside from Ariel, most of the teenage Disney heroines tend to act with more maturity than most teenagers I know. (No offense to the teenage members here!)
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Aug 7, 2007 22:43:59 GMT -5
This is(not suprisingly) my favorite Disney movie. In many, many ways, Sleeping Beauty set the stage for the subsequent Disney films, especially the fairy tales. Maleficent is not just mean, but evil. Prince Philip, imo, redefined the Disney heroes. He actually had to fight for Aurora and prove himself instead of merely showing up and making her dreams come true like the prior princes.
In terms of animation, Sleeping Beauty is perhaps the most distinct Disney film. No film before or since looks anything quite like it. The other interesting thing is how consistent it stays. Most other Disney films have minor inconsistencies such as Belle's hair changing lengths throughout the film. But Sleeping Beauty stays so consistent throughout the film.
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Post by Pixie Princess™ on Aug 16, 2007 13:04:08 GMT -5
This is a great movie, I love watching it. lol
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Post by LauraHonest on Aug 17, 2007 12:46:00 GMT -5
Tahsina what did you like about it? was there anything you didn't like? please give us a few details to keep the conversation moving.
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Post by ~*~*Belle*~*~ on Aug 18, 2007 2:30:06 GMT -5
I love this film. It's one of my favorite Disney movies. It has one of the best (if not the best) Disney Villains, the storyline and the characters are all interesting and the songs are great.
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Post by joplin4 on Aug 18, 2007 14:05:52 GMT -5
Artistically--the film surpasses all others. I think based on art alone, it is and will remain Disney's greatest animation endeavor.
Story--It was very well done in this aspect, though I think it could be a tad better here. Story development was the weakest on this film. Not to say it was generally weak, but when compared to the other aspects of this film, the story suffered slightly.
Characters--The personalities of most of the characters were very well done. They could have done more to develop the main characters, though. The villain was the greatest! Still, Maleficent cannot be better than Her Majesty, in my opinion. But she runs a close second.
Music--I loved the idea of using Tchaikovsky's original score and writing lyrics to his music. It was a great tribute. And "Once Upon a Dream" remains Disney's finest few minutes of magic, in my opinion. But, one thing I loved was "Skumps". I just love some of those lines.
All in all, I'm being overly critical...but you have to be when the movie has so few flaws. It is a tribute to Walt Disney's life.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Aug 26, 2007 19:14:14 GMT -5
One of the more interesting notes about Sleeping Beauty is it's historical context. When Disney was making the film in the 1950s, rival animation studios were literally churning out lots of short little features as cheap as they possibly could, and it showed. Disney, bothered by the trend towards shoddy and cheap animation, envisioned Sleeping Beauty as his response. And it worked. Even though the film was incredibly expensive to make and Disney lost money on it the first time around, Sleeping Beauty put an end to the cheap and shoddy animation of that era. In it's subsequent releases, it has made it's money back.
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Post by LauraHonest on Aug 26, 2007 22:32:31 GMT -5
that is interesting, thanks for sharing!
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Aug 28, 2007 0:13:55 GMT -5
No problem. I'm full of all sorts of random notes about Disney films, especially Sleeping Beauty. You can learn a lot from watching audio commentaries and documentaries. That last tidbit I picked up in Neal Gabler's Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination.
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Post by Donald Duck on Aug 31, 2007 2:20:07 GMT -5
I loved this movie. The characters were great, they had the perfect voice actors! I loved the animation and I loved Maleficent!! Like Butters, I didn't like Prince Phillip. He didn't seem like the other hero's. I loved Flora, Fauna and Merryweather. They had such a devotion and love towards Aurora that they took care of her for 16 years
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Sept 2, 2007 21:10:18 GMT -5
Out of curiousity, why is Philip different from the other heroes? I think that he's the first Disney prince to actually be a hero, instead of just showing up at the end to make her dreams come true.
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Post by Pride on Sept 2, 2007 21:27:51 GMT -5
^I don't think I have an answer to your question, sorry.
Prince Phillip is my favorite Prince, for exactly what Briar has been saying. He loves Aurora, so he fights for her. And he met her prior to saving her (Eric did that too, though). However, Princess Aurora still doesn't seem to be 16 enough for me. She is playful and obedient and gets upset, but while she's dancing she just seems...older. I guess I have no examples, sorry. I didn't particularly enjoy the music, aside from "Once Upon a Dream". I liked the bounciness, and the fact that she's sharing her thoughts with herself aloud, until she's interrupted. I thoroughly enjoy the comic relief in this movie, the faeries. Especially Merryweather. She is such a contrast to Fauna and Flora.
Overall, it is not my favorite movie, but I love the story and the characters.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Sept 2, 2007 21:42:37 GMT -5
You've touched on why I think you can't compare Philip to subsequent Disney heroes. Philip is the one who changed the merits of a Disney prince/hero. After Philip, the hero has been introduced early in the story. After Philip, the hero has had to do something to fight for his princess/heroine. What makes Philip's role significant is how he stands out in contrast to the two Prince Charmings who came before him. I can't imagine a Disney romance film now that didn't have a significant male lead. Before Sleeping Beauty, this was not the case.
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Post by Butterscotch on Sept 3, 2007 7:49:36 GMT -5
Out of curiousity, why is Philip different from the other heroes? I think that he's the first Disney prince to actually be a hero, instead of just showing up at the end to make her dreams come true. He's a much better hero than those who came before him, but compared to modern heroes, he's somewhat lacking. His personality isn't as fleshed out as modern heroes, and his looks are pretty generic. But he's way better than Prince Charming. Charming can't even be bothered to find Cinderella himself, he has the Arch-Duke do it for him. Even Snow White's prince was searching for her after she disapeared.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Sept 3, 2007 11:44:26 GMT -5
Gotcha. In terms of context, I think it's unfair to compare Phililp with the princes who followed after him becaue there was a 30 year gap between Sleeping Beauty and The Little Mermaid. Disney animators have said that the second hardest thing to draw is a human female. A human male is the first. I look at Philip as the prince who raised the bar for the others in terms of his contribution to the film.
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