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Post by Butterscotch on Oct 11, 2007 8:53:26 GMT -5
I don't know what it is about Cinderella that annoys me. I actually have great tolerance for damsels in distress (you kind of develop a tolerance for D.I.D.s when you play a lot of video games. What Ganon kidnapped Zelda? Right-o, I'll get my sword and rescue her!)
I mean, I adore Snow White, who is in a very similar situation to Cinderella. Maybe Snow White's relative youth and innocence (compared to Cinderella) make her more appealing to me?
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Post by dumboxthexelephant on Oct 11, 2007 9:41:46 GMT -5
I can see very mixed reviews here and a few users liked Cinderella
i really liked what Cinderella wore and i liked the fairy godmothers as well
p.s butterscotch i totally agree with you
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Post by Silver on Oct 11, 2007 21:08:34 GMT -5
I understand why this film won't appeal to everyone and I respect that. There's a few Disney Classics I'm not too keen on either. Even though the quality of some films is fantastic, the stories themselves just don't reach you. Which is fine. Makes for a more fascinating discussion anyway. I've never found one film that every audience member loved or hated. There's always mixed reviews on any topic.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 12, 2007 10:48:29 GMT -5
That's the key. Different stories resonate with people for different reasons. I think part of Cinderella's appeal lies in the fact that her life was extremely difficult and she was treated horribly, yet she found her dreams coming true. I understand that not everyone who loves this film and character came from a difficult situation, but I believe that's part of the appeal.
I also suspect that becoming a princess(as opposed to being born one) holds a great deal of appeal for girls.
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Post by kate on Oct 12, 2007 19:28:23 GMT -5
Cinderella is such a kind-hearted character. I love her and the mice. Of course her gown is magnificent!
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Post by Silver on Oct 12, 2007 20:42:10 GMT -5
This story really does represent a fairy-tale come true. Going from the bottom of the barrel to the top of the mountin. Cinderella started out a priviledged child with a loving father. But after his death she was stripped of any title possabilities. But it would later become full cirlce when she would be a princess! Through the middle though I think there was a positive side. Becoming a servent taught her resposibility, effiency, and the reward of pulling your own weight. And in due time for having such admirable qualities she would recieve her most precious rewards in life. Respect, love, and freedom. Unfortunetley this isn't how reality always works. But it can leave the possability. I don't know if karma really exsist, but I don't dout it either. Maybe that's why I've taken a liking to this story.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 13, 2007 0:43:49 GMT -5
Be it karma or the Golden Rule, goodness and kindness are returned to you I've seen that in my own life too many times. Good deeds are rewarded,(and the Ferengi are wrong since they believe that no good deed goes unpunished, but I digress).
As with almost all of Walt Disney's classic films, the triumph of the good hero and/or heroine over evil is why these films resonate so strongly. As much as I love Sleeping Beauty for that very message, it is also very prevalent throughout Cinderella. I believe it is why these films remain so popular and beloved today.
I believe that Cinderella drives the point home even further because of the contrast between Cinderella and her stepsisters. The stepsisters live a spoiled brat lifestyle and their character is revealed at the ball. Prince Charming(what kind of a name is that anyways?) knows exactly who they are and sees right through them. He knows there's no substance there.
Cinderella is different. She has forged her character through trials, and has stayed true to her best self. And the Prince sees that as clear as day.
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Post by joplin4 on Oct 13, 2007 10:47:24 GMT -5
Cinderella deserves praise for several reasons. It is the classic definitive "happily ever after" story. It also featured a fantastic villain, magic, and wonderful songs. The film rejuvenated the Disney company after the war. Cinderella saved the company and made it possible for "The Little Mermaid", "Sleeping Beauty", and others.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 14, 2007 1:46:48 GMT -5
That is a great point. We may not realize that most of the beloved Disney classics were not financial successes when first release. Most of the classics were actually financial failures that seriously hurt the studio financially when first released. The animation department was in dire straits following the war because of WWII and the prior box office disappointments, and Disney was looking at closing down feature animation. In many ways, Cinderella saved Disney animation because it turned a huge profit for the studio.
As a side note, Disney should remember that a quality film will never be a disappointment. While they may not make money at first, a good film will do so. In fact, one of Disney's least successful films on first release has gone on to become one of it's most profitable.
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Post by SpellWovenNight on Oct 14, 2007 15:19:22 GMT -5
Maybe I've been studying APUSH too much but Cinderella's appeal sorta reminds me of the same appeal that America had for the first immigrants and what the West had stood for: oppertunity. The chance that your life can get better and Cinderella's did. A lot of people always refer to fairy tales as rags to riches stories but really Cinderella and Aladdin are the only to Disney films that I can think of that really follow that. Cinderella the character I don't feel as if I really know and I don't judge her a lot on she's my favorite or my least. Its the story that I really love more than the character.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 15, 2007 1:45:18 GMT -5
That's a very interesting analogy. The hopes and dreams of a better life appeal to so many people. There's a wonderful piece of Disney Fine Art by John Alvin that really captures what you're saying. There's something powerful about the juxtaposition of Cinderella toiling away with her happily ever after destiny waiting in the wings.
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Post by SpellWovenNight on Oct 21, 2007 16:19:24 GMT -5
I like taht word, juxtapostion, but I completely agree wtih that. I think its the dreaming part that is so powerful too, not even that it came true. I really like the picture too.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 25, 2007 0:49:37 GMT -5
I think the element of dreams is why Cinderella is such a popular film and why she resonates so strongly with so many people. Cinderella embodies the idea of dreams coming true. In some ways, part of Walt Disney's personality was imbued into Cinderella.
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Post by Skeleton Grin on Jun 8, 2010 21:20:49 GMT -5
So I finally managed to acquire this film on it's 2 Disc Special Edition glory after much hunting on eBay for a reasonable price and realised that this is definitely my favourite of the original 3 Disney Princess films. The animation is simply sublime and there's such a contrast in the styles that are on show. As, I think it was Andreas Deja mentions in the Making of featurette or John Canemaker, you have the realism and subtle animation with Cinderella, Lady Tremaine, Prince Charming but on the flip side you have these wonderful sub-plots which are full on caricature, cartoon scenes such as the Grand Duke and the King (of whom's scenes I adore) and the Tom & Jerry esque escapades of Lucifer and the mice which compliment each other fantastically well. I think the scene where Lucifer is unsure of which cup he's hidden Gus under is by far some of Ward Kimball's best animation, just the absurdity but humour that is displayed on Lucifer's shaking head is fantastic.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Jun 8, 2010 23:19:26 GMT -5
One of the real strengths of Cinderella are those wonderful subplots. It's too easy to characterize Cinderella as a "girls movie" because of the title character and her story. But to do so completely misses the point of the very strong supporting characters and what they bring to the film. For me, the mice are the best part of the story. Their antics make this a movie I watch more than once a year.
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