MerryweathePoppins
Disney Grandmaster
What are the odds of that trap door leadin' me out here?[M:0]
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Post by MerryweathePoppins on Nov 17, 2005 15:02:14 GMT -5
I love this film - i was never fussed as a child, just as Cinderelle but I just found it again and watch it twice more and I LOVE ursula's sassiness and ambition. Ursula is one of the best villains. Her voice just has the right mixture of sassy, honey, but a hint of sarcasm and irony. I also love Kiss the Girl and I hail it as the most romntic Disney song Ever. I am also hooked on Part of you world. was never fussed over under the sea, but I also love the animation and all the music, epecially where ariel sings over eric on the beach. I too thought eric was insipid compared to the heroic Prince Phillip.
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Post by Silver on Oct 27, 2007 1:49:52 GMT -5
This is my second favorite Disney film! The story is the perfect fairy-tale to watch on a gloomy afternoon. It's filled with color, laughter, romance, a little suspence and tons of imagination! The music is so addictive and loveable. Alam menken and Howard Ashmen proved they had skill, passion, and were the perfect songwriting team for Disney music. The cast may have been unknown at the time but their performances didn't falter. Each actor brought the right amount of reality as well as entertaining quirks to the characters. The animation set the bar high for it's time -period. I thought it had "Extravegant" written all over it. And no dout, this film really was the one to "Start it all over Again" for the Disney studio.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 27, 2007 2:09:04 GMT -5
This film is the one that brought about the renaissance of Disney animation. It was the first film in a very long time to feature music that captured the imagination the way that the classic songs of Walt's era Disney films did. Interestingly enough, I read a survey recently that named Ariel as the world's most well known redhead.
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Post by LauraHonest on Oct 27, 2007 16:33:48 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, I read a survey recently that named Ariel as the world's most well known redhead. that doesn't surprise me a bit. Even boys have seen this one. It is just a cute story with a wonderful lesson. Ariel may be a spoiled child but she learns sacrifice and the power of honesty in the end. The part where Triton gives himself to save Ariel makes me tear up every time.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 28, 2007 2:29:49 GMT -5
Even boys have seen this one. Well, we boys do tend to be rather fond of a certain song in that movie , even if it does involve Scuttle attempting to sing.
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Post by LauraHonest on Oct 28, 2007 9:32:58 GMT -5
lol^^ that is good information to know
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Post by Silver on Oct 29, 2007 15:00:33 GMT -5
Ariel is one of my all-time favorite Disney characters for several reasons! While I never made the association of Ariel being spoiled or selfish. I think she's rebelious, naieve, self-centered and ignorant. But I think it's healthy to show the negative side to a character. (We all have some) She's also determined, kind, adventurous, and enthusiastic! I find her journey very entertaining. And it makes for an easier transition to follow in the end. And I think like so many other young people in the world today she may have a gut-instinct to see the beauty of the unknown. She feels somewhere deep within that the human world can hold the joy and understanding she's been longing for. But her wide-eyed wonderment can also be her undoing. Many young people fail to see the danger and heartbreak within a world they really don't know too much about.
But that's one of my favorite lessons in the story. Parents have to learn that their children have to become an adult too and face the music on their own eventually. Proctection for them can only last so long. But kids need to understand that most parents only have their best interests at heart. And having limits and rules is for their own good sometimes. Just as long as they arn't caged. It's the painful process every family has to go through but it's simply apart of life. But that also means the parnents have done their job. To rasie their offspring to stand on their own and make decisions for themselves.
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Post by ladypocahontas on Oct 29, 2007 21:33:03 GMT -5
I love The Little Mermaid! I thought it was an excellent movie! In fact, my girls were very young at the time, and this is the first Disney movie I took them to see. It started a tradition of me taking them to see almost every Disney movie that came out at the theatre.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 30, 2007 1:28:42 GMT -5
Silver, your raise some good points. As someone who is bothered that Ariel never really had to fully face the consequences of her reckless actions, your points help me understand that my concerns that there were no consequences for her reckless behavior may be unfounded.
Don't misunderstand as I like the movie a lot, it's just that sometimes I felt like Ariel was rewarded without having to deal with the consequences of her rash behavior.
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Post by Silver on Oct 30, 2007 1:57:59 GMT -5
I understand what your saying. ^^ Maybe the consequences were too lenient but it is a Disney fairy-tale. I wasn't expecting for creators to give Ariel an agonizing punishment. However I do believe she realized her mistakes and began to have regrets. When she saw Eric with Vanessa, her spirits and hopes were crushed beyond belief. Everything she put on the line had been ripped to shreds. And how she watched the kingdom almost fall and her father turned into an urchin was more then a heartbreak. I think some of her emotions had to be read between the lines. But in the end, I think she realized how much she appriciated the loved ones in her life. And she wouldn't trade that for the ocean. (I think it fits) But her love for Eric and the majesty of the human world still prevailed strongly. It was also the moment where King Triton could sense her passion and longing. And I think the line "I love you Daddy" was her graditude to her father for his sacrifice and she would not take it for granted.
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Post by SpellWovenNight on Nov 3, 2007 17:52:12 GMT -5
There is punishment for Ariel, as Silver just mentioned, but I felt like it was more of King Triton learning the lesson through the movie, which might sound a little weird. He refused to listen to his daughter, destroyed her "bubble" or her grove, he tried to protect her a little too much. He was turned into a urchin and gave up his power to Ursula. Then in the end he had to realize that if he loved his daughter enough he had to let her go and grow up on her own and in her own way.
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Post by Silver on Nov 10, 2007 18:42:24 GMT -5
I agree with you SpellWovenNight. ^^ Parents will have a fair share of lessons on their hands too. Being an adult doesn't make you immune to learning and vice versa for an adolecent. Children becoming teachers isn't as common, it isn't a rare occurance either. And I'm happy with the way the creators projected the story with King Triton and Ariel. This way both sides made mistakes, taught the other about assumption, and saw from the other's point of view. It's how life really is with parents and children. (At least in my experience)
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Maggie
Disney Newbie
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Post by Maggie on Feb 13, 2008 11:52:17 GMT -5
This movie, I think, deserved all of the credit it was getting. It was something new. Unfortunately, Disney had to use this sort of feel-good formula over and over again. Besides some exceptions.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Feb 17, 2008 23:59:40 GMT -5
There have been some excellent points raised here in this thread that have me rethinking my thought that Ariel didn't learn any lessons she may have needed to learn before the film's happy ending. Kudos to everyone for explaining their opinions so thoughtfully without thinking I was completely off my rocker.
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Post by Silver on Feb 18, 2008 0:10:45 GMT -5
That's fine. to each to their own afterall. But what I love so much about this film is it's appeal has remained close to my heart through the course of my life. Even at different stages, it has this magical connection to so many generations. Young children enjoy it for the color and wonder of the unknown. Teenagers and young adults can relate to Ariel and Eric for wanting to break out of the mold of their family, explore the world around them, and finding the place they feel comfortable in setteling themselves for adulthood. And older generations can understand the pressure of finding a balence in wanting to protect their children and learing to trust their judgment. Plus it's enchanting music, extrodinary animation, and vivid but playful characterization has a cross- generation appeal. No wonder it's so beloved around the world, And now the Broadway show has an oppertunity to expand and revise some of the film's holes as well as invite the audience to revist that complex but stunning setting and story. Only it's on a whole new medium.
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