Monsters Inc 2

[Skeleton Grin]

Ok here goes.
moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/06/08/pixar-doesnt-quite-confirm-pete-doctor-to-direct-monsters-inc-2/

Ok guys, usually I refrain on giving my own opinion on this kind of stuff but I thought I'd get some of my own points across because I've been feeling strongly about this over the past few hours since I found out.

Ok first and foremost, a Monsters Inc sequel hasn't shocked me in the slightest. I know that ever since the first one came out there has been talk of it but because of Pixar's usual embargo on sequels we've never seen anything come to fruition.

It has shocked me however, that literally within about 9 months (?) there have been 3 Pixar sequels announced.

Now this is based off of John Lasseter's own personal admission that the only reason they would do sequels was if they had an amazing story left to tell or in a way in which to tell it differently.

Now Toy Story 2 I can understand, it introduced a lot of new things to the Toy Story mythos and was a genuinely interesting story. Toy Story 3 I can also seminally understand due to how Disney started it, originally without Pixar with Circle 7, and gained preliminary audience feedback on the idea, helping Pixar realise that there probably is a want for Toy Story 3.

And I don't usually knock Pixar, ever, as some of you probably know.

But for this, I'm genuinely angered. It's pretty obvious what kind of plot the sequel will have; some horrible re-hashed plot where we revisit Boo, probably 20 years later, all grown up, like some god-awful Disney sequel such as Peter Pan 2 or The little Mermaid 2. I'm not saying this is the case, but I fail to see how they could do a sequel without doing something of this effect. Or *shudder* finding a new child, who happens to be Boo's son/daughter.

I think the fact that Monsters and Cars both have had sequels put into place is a clear indication of how the male market, in terms of merchendising, is lacking for the Disney sector as they have loads aimed at little girls (Hannah Montana, HSM, Disney Princesses, Tinkerbell, etc) but VERY minimal for little boys, generally which all stem from Pixar films anyway. I'm wondering if it is some push from higher up in the Disney corporation? And if so, please, why does it have to be a Pixar sequel!

-Rant over-

All I'm saying is, after all this time of John Lasseter being pretty much against sequels (he stopped production on all sequels except for CInderella 3 and TLM3 due to them being too far into production when he joined Disney) I find it.....horrible that now he's not in his original position, its possible that Disney might start to spoil the Pixar name, brand and image.

From a devoted fan.

Comments on this guys?

[Silver]

I don't think there's any need to be concerned yet Elliot. All that's been said so far is this film is a possability. I can see why you would be afraid of a recycled storyline but so far Pixar has avoided those cruddy money-making nerve to call-films. Besides Joh Lasseter has far too much on Pixar's plate before this possible film could be looked upon seriously. Even if it does happen I can't see John allowing his employees to go down that dead-end road. I feel much more confident after viewing Up that Pixar will give each story that special ingrediant. Yes there's predictable plot-points in many of their films but nothing that I've seen so far that would force an audience to leave the theatre early. But like I said this far too soon to be worried. This is if anything happens at all. I think you can breathe easily for now.

[Briar Rose's Dark Knight]

If there's one studio I trust to make a sequel to a successful film for the sake of telling an additional great story featuring some of those characters, it's Pixar. While I admittedly have no idea about how they're going to handle a sequel, I'm confident that they're not making it for the purpose of solely making money. Until Pixar proves otherwise, I trust that they can tell a great story even if it does feature characters they've already introduced us to.

[Little_Cassie]

I think that Pixar is amazing at making movies and that toy story 2 was amazing. I have confidence in Pixars sequal making abilitys... for now. I love monsters inc and I think that if its played right, it could be a good movie. Its hard to say until more about the plot in announced.

[Butterscotch]

Jun 8, 2009 23:37:10 GMT -5 Briar Rose's Dark Knight said:

If there's one studio I trust to make a sequel to a successful film for the sake of telling an additional great story featuring some of those characters, it's Pixar. While I admittedly have no idea about how they're going to handle a sequel, I'm confident that they're not making it for the purpose of solely making money. Until Pixar proves otherwise, I trust that they can tell a great story even if it does feature characters they've already introduced us to.

That pretty much says it all.
If this were a plain-ol' Disney direct-to-video sequel I'd be worried, but since it's Pixar, I have confidence.

[Shenzi]

I agree with Elliot about Toy Story 2. I can not name many decent sequels that I have actually enjoyed but Toy Story 2 I CAN name, it has to be one of the best out there.

And for the first time in my history here or the history of Disney sequels I can actually say that I have some faith for this sequel. Monster's Inc was an adorable movie, and I have actually been interested in seeing what happened when Sully rebuilt Boo's door and saw her again.

[Little_Cassie]

oh yah! I forgot that ending! It could be very interesting. I have faith. PIXAR CAN DO IT!!

[drpepper]

Pixar wouldn't make a sequel unless they have a good story in mind. I wouldn't worry about it. The only thing I wonder is why would they decide to make a sequel almost 10 years after the first one.

[Little_Cassie]

hmm, yah. They are making Toy Story 3 though which has a bigger gap then the two monsters inc movies..right?

[KairiOfTheDark]

No. No. No.
Just when I was starting to accept sequels ¬__¬
Whyyyyy do they have to do this to EVERY movie they make. What's the harm in oh.. I don't know. .coming up with something new xO #shock horror#
I am not going to go out and watch this. I will wait for it to come on TV 5 years after its release. Even then I still shall not care. In. The. Slightest.

¬_¬ *Not happy*

I really don't see how they'er going to do this. the ending was pretty much wrapped up with a nice little bow at the end of MI 1. And the scream factory is now a laughter factory and Boo's home and just... no ¬_¬

[Briar Rose's Dark Knight]

Toy Story also had a perfectly good ending. They didn't need to make a sequel out of it either, yet they told a great story in Toy Story 2. Until Pixar proves otherwise, I'm confident in their ability to tell a story and make an entertaining movie.

[barkydog2000]

I have my doubts too. I do think that it will be a good movie though. I think my biggest doubt is that it can't be as good as Toy Story 2 as far as a sequel. I bet it will be entertaining though and I have the same sentiments toward cars. But then again, the difference between those are I think with Boo and them being not very scary-looking monsters, I think Monsters Inc was aimed toward little girls and Cars was more aimed toward little boys. And I think it is very true because at least for me Cars was not my favorite although it was very good.

[Silver]

I can see where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree with everything that was said. Yes the Toy Story franchise was so impressivley created that many generations can enjoy the film for what it is. Mosnters Inc & Cars may not have the same brilliant production as TS in the first place but they still do what Pixar does best. Create stories that can be enjoyed by families. These films may be lighter in tone then other Pixar productions but I don't see how that makes them any less intelligent and hearfelt. They maybe more appealing to children, however I thought there was more then enough substance and mature gags to keep the older generations entertained. So if the creative team does the exact same prcedure with the sequels , I don't see how it could fail. Who knows, they maybe even more intellectuall then what we could imagine.

[Briar Rose's Dark Knight]

I think that many of Pixar's deeper meanings often go unnoticed by even those who like Pixar films. For instance, some people may not even notice that one Pixar film revolved around a midlife crisis.

[Skeleton Grin]

I think audiences not initially seeing the bigger pictures is one of the joys of cinema in general, and is a Circle of Enlightenment in Sarris' Auteur model which proves that Pixar as a company, are obviously top of the game, and one with a little more substance. I'm sorry to say but I fail to understand how an encrypted message regarding The Incredibles has anything to do with Pixar sequels :S Maybe that's just me.

Silver, you've pretty much just put into words my problem with these sequels:
"So if the creative team does the exact same prcedure with the sequels , I don't see how it could fail."
That's my problem. They're too formulaic. A film shouldn't be about a "procedure", under any circumstances. There hasn't been a sequel to date, in my mind, that has done something fantastically different to its predecessor and has generally been a re-hash of the previous film.
I'm not against sequels in any shape or form, it'd be hypocritical of me to be as there are a bounty that I have genuinely enjoyed.

I think one of my biggest gripes is how Lasseter came into Disney, stopped production on the sequels there, but has started to seemingly dilute his own company's name by starting 3 sequels in the space of around 12 months. I'm under no pretence that Pixar can probably pull it off, but, its only a matter of time before at some point they will falter, and I believe it'll be some form of hiccup regarding one of these impending sequels.