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Post by diznykid on Apr 1, 2008 20:12:37 GMT -5
Oh, so has anyone here seen it?
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Post by KairiOfTheDark on Apr 1, 2008 20:26:52 GMT -5
Seeing as it's not out yet, I doubt that anyone has seen it o.O
Unless you mean cinderella 3 - then I have seen the first third of it XD
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Post by Vicky on Apr 17, 2008 15:24:59 GMT -5
Cindy 3 is actually one of those sequals I can count on that one hand I agree completely ! Walt was no saint, but he had a good idea on how to make entertainement: pushing the limits, always ready to improve both on the artistic area as on the kind of messages he wanted to give to his audience. Money, money, money... the most popular characters have their faces on EVERY product you can imagine: toys, kitchen stuff, for the bathroom, school, on clothes... I can go on forever. I liked it in the beginning, but it has become too much. Now don't get me wrong, I still buy Disney products as long it's BEAUTIFUL and ORIGINAL ! I hope the old guys come back to haunt the current Disney chiefs. P.S.: I'm sorry for my English mistakes. I'm Dutch and it's really late while I'm writing this. But I think you get my point.
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Post by diznykid on Apr 17, 2008 20:29:42 GMT -5
@kairiofthedarkness: Yes, I did mean Cinderella III haha.
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Post by diznykid on May 28, 2008 23:23:14 GMT -5
Let's take a look see at the cover! Found this on Amazon.com. So, it's actually one of the best covers for a Disney sequel I've ever seen. It gives me hope that the movie might be really good. ;D I like how they designed the look for Ariel on the cover, I don't know why it just gives her the curious aura she had in the first film. Although on of the sisters look like Paris Hilton with a pony tale , all the rest looks pretty good. What do you guys think??
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on May 28, 2008 23:45:09 GMT -5
The artwork does look nice, but I still have grave concerns over the story and plot. Disney's ability to create beautiful artwork has never been in question, but their ability to tell a decent story has come under fire in recent years.
I'm stlll quite bitter about the blonde haired girl wearing a pink dress in Enchanted Tales that they seem to think is named Princess Aurora. This girl acts and sounds nothing like the Aurora that I've seen in Sleeping Beauty.
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Post by diznykid on May 29, 2008 0:35:27 GMT -5
I'm stlll quite bitter about the blonde haired girl wearing a pink dress in Enchanted Tales that they seem to think is named Princess Aurora. This girl acts and sounds nothing like the Aurora that I've seen in Sleeping Beauty. |
Oh. My. Gosh! I hate them for making her into a preppy high school girl! It's so stupid, they should just leave the movies alone! But I really am hoping Ursula is in this movie. Don't really care about Morgana because I didn't really like her, and she isn't really needed. I'm really hoping this is a worthy movie of Disney. It will never amount to the glory of the first, but I'm thinking it will be better than ... Return to the Sea. They totally ruined the character of Ariel, by making her act like a forty year old with menopause. (please excuse that comment, that's just seriously how I felt they protrayed her.)
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on May 29, 2008 1:03:00 GMT -5
Oh. My. Gosh! I hate them for making her into a preppy high school girl! It's so stupid, they should just leave the movies alone! I refuse to accept it. In short, I don't know who that blonde girl is in Enchanted Tales. They may call her Aurora, but she doesn't sound like Aurora, she doesn't act like Aurora, so therefore she's not Aurora. Heck, if I want to be technical(and I do) the blonde girl does not even look like Aurora as portrayed in the film. They lost the style somewhere. As for TLM III, the success of this project(as measured by how well it's received, not sales) depends on whether or not it's worth seeing. Admittedly, as a prequel it has a chance because they can make it fit to the beloved classic, but whether or not it succeeds is another matter.
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Post by Skeleton Grin on May 29, 2008 16:21:35 GMT -5
I'm refusing to see it on the principle Jim Cummins is playing Triton. Kenneth Mars is still alive and well. An episode I caught my sister watching of Hannah Montana had him in as a cameo character! I mean seriously.
It really grinds my gears...
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Post by Shenzi on May 30, 2008 1:20:54 GMT -5
Well thats kind of stupid not bringing back a perfectly good voice actor. Although Joaquin Phoenix is alive and well also and he declined returning as Kenai in the second Brother Bear as did David Spade in the Emperor Series. I also don't believe Eddie Murphy returned as Mushu in the second Mulan even though the replacement sounds identical. So I guess its a common thing; I don't blame them not supporting sequels.
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Post by Butterscotch on May 30, 2008 10:57:13 GMT -5
There are a lot of reasons why an actor may not return for a sequel, and it doesn't necessarily reflect on the quality of the sequels. For example, after the release of Aladdin, Robin Williams felt that certain terms of his contract had been violated, and would not do the voice of Genie for The Return of Jafar nor for the TV series. After an apology from Disney, he returned for the final sequel. This is a dramatic example, for the other actors, it may be a case of a scheduling conflict, or simply a desire to not reprise the role. It may also be a budget issue: they may not be able to afford more famous actors.
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Post by Shenzi on May 30, 2008 14:40:18 GMT -5
Oh wow I did not know all that.
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Post by Skeleton Grin on May 30, 2008 17:20:20 GMT -5
Yeah I have to say I can understand why Eddie Murphy couldn't return, Jaoquin Phoenix and David Spade. There's a trend there They're bigger names. I don't understand why Disney couldn't have battled for, in anyway possible, to get Kenneth Mars back on board. It's such a shame. In the trailer Triton doesn't seem to have the same heart
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Post by Shenzi on May 30, 2008 23:55:03 GMT -5
Yeah Thats a good point Elliot, if they made the effort to Get Robin Williams back that why not put that kind of effort into getting back Kenneth Mars, or Joaquin or Eddie? The fans love the big named people and replacing the voices takes away from the character.
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on May 31, 2008 0:33:22 GMT -5
In the case of Robin Williams, his personality made the Genie and forged Aladdin into the blockbuster it was. He was the Genie. Triton, while important to the story, did not make The Little Mermaid. So, Disney had more at stake in trying to bring Robin Willaims back. Losing Robin Williams for The Return of Jafar would be closer to losing Jodi Benson for any subsequent projects they've done with Ariel.
Honestly, I think Disney is far more concerned with making money than with making the fans happy on these sequels. Little girls who just want to see the princesses aren't going to care that the story is lame and/or that Ariel no longer acts like herself. All they see is Ariel and that makes them happy.
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