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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Mar 10, 2008 23:26:13 GMT -5
It could be that they were merely testing it out for Dalmatians using the elephants from Jungle Book. Disney frequently did that sort of thing(and still does).
If you watch the twilight bark sequence, you'll see quite a few dogs from Lady and the Tramp, including very recognizable dogs from that film.
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Post by LauraHonest on Mar 11, 2008 10:47:48 GMT -5
It is one of the cute things that Disney does, I always enjoy noticing characters from other movies in whatever I am watching.
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Post by Skeleton Grin on Mar 11, 2008 16:56:43 GMT -5
It could be that they were merely testing it out for Dalmatians using the elephants from Jungle Book. Disney frequently did that sort of thing(and still does). If you watch the twilight bark sequence, you'll see quite a few dogs from Lady and the Tramp, including very recognizable dogs from that film. It's ok I found out It was a short called Goliath II. The elephant sequence was virtually the same and Verna Felton both played matriachal characters in each
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Mar 16, 2008 0:24:52 GMT -5
Oh good. I wonder if they were using Goliath II to test the sequence for Jungle Book. Verna Felton did so many different voice roles for Disney in those days. She was also one of the good fairies in Sleeping Beauty amongst other parts she had.
In thinking about it, 101 Dalmatians may be the first film to feature a prominent villian song. While there were some brief pockets of music about the villains in some, but not all of the eariler Disney films, I think Dalmatians may be the first film where the villain song is so prominent. The only other villain song I can think of is "We Are Siamese" from Lady and the Tramp, but I don't think the cats are as prominent villains like Hook, Maleficent, Lady Tremayne, the Wicken Queen, and of course Cruella De Vil.
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Post by LauraHonest on Mar 16, 2008 10:07:51 GMT -5
That is something i hadn't thought about BRP. DVF10 would probably agree that more villians need songs Despite being a fan of "the good guys" I do enjoy a good villian song every now and then, and Cruella De Vil is a good one!
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Post by lizzie7 on Mar 16, 2008 18:30:05 GMT -5
i got it this week....and i watched it the same night...it was so cute!!!!the little puppies are so adorable!! i've only seen it in dutch...so it was weird seeing it in english for the first time...but it's still a Disney Classic
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Post by Briar Rose's Dark Knight on Oct 24, 2008 0:05:16 GMT -5
Has anybody seen the extras on the second disc? In the section where the animators are talking about the xerography process, they talk about a short film they created to test it out. That was an interesting feature. Note how they also showed some footage from Sleeping Beauty when Phillip threw his sword into Maleficent as a test of how the technology might work. 101 Dalmatians is an interesting film in Disney history. In many ways, it saved the animation department because it was a huge financial success. The animators were also thrilled because the xerography process enabled them to see their actual drawings on the screen instead of the work that had inked and painted by the girls in the ink and paint department. At the same time, 101 Dalmatians also marked a stylistic departure for Disney. One of the designers on the film wondered if Walt would ever forgive him for the loss of the lush, rich backgrounds that had been a part of so many Disney films before. In the end, the animator believed that Walt did forgive him. If not for the xerography process, Disney might have closed feature animation because it was getting so expensive to make the films. Xerograpy enabled them to make the movies for less money, but they were still able to produce quality animation.
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Post by Butterscotch on May 19, 2015 18:12:39 GMT -5
One thing I've always wondered...Roger refers to Cruella as Anita's old schoolmate, but the two women don't look anywhere near the same age. Is Cruella a young woman who has aged poorly, or is Anita older than she looks? I kind of assume the former, but I'm curious to know what you guys think?
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Post by jupiter23 on May 19, 2015 18:23:03 GMT -5
If we're assuming everyone is in their late 20's to early 30's, then I would say that it's because Cruella aged poorly.
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Post by Butterscotch on May 21, 2015 8:08:47 GMT -5
It makes the most sense, especially with those nasty cigarettes Cruella smokes. Those things have to be bad for your skin.
Though it is kind of funny to think of Anita actually being wayyy older than she looks. " Doctors hate her. Find out her secret!"
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Post by jupiter23 on May 21, 2015 17:55:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I was going to comment on the cigarette thing, but I couldn't come up with a way to say it that wouldn't offend someone. But I do think that contributed to it too. And weren't cigarettes from the early 1960's mostly unfiltered?
Also the fact that she always seemed to be angry about something. Having her blood pressure up like that all the time can't possibly be doing her any favors.
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Post by Butterscotch on May 21, 2015 18:07:22 GMT -5
Cruella's ciggarettes always looked especially nasty to me. That green smoke is just not normal. And yeah, anger can prematurely age you. And there are always genetics to factor in. Some people just age better than others. That said...
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Post by icyheart16 on May 28, 2015 9:50:32 GMT -5
You all are killing me!
But I have never noticed the school mate statement until you all pointed it out. Now I'm amused. But I'm sure those cigarettes played a nasty toll on Cruella's skin... I'm gonna go that route!
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